Hi Chuck,N533XL wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 3:47 pm Glad to see owners taking action to source parts and get/keep their aircraft flying.
5 of us are working with Richard Squires at Langaire Aircraft Parts in Warren, Oregon.
Originally quoted a price of $52 per pin. One overseas party is not able to import owner produced parts made in the US so that will adjust the price up a bit. Also expecting a quote from Langaire very soon (requires a tool) and we should be good to go.
How does raising the price address the issues with import of owner produced parts? As far as I know, they only way to legally yellow tag a part is to acquire them from a manufacturer with PMA, (Parts Manufacturing Authority). Does Langaire have PMA for these two parts? Be careful. If someone is going to charge for a tagged part, make darned sure they actually have authority to do so. PMA is not easy to get, and doesn't make a lot of sense for type specific parts when the fleet is perhaps 100 airframes and not likely to grow. Anyone can fill out a parts tag, but unless they've got authority to do so, for each and every certified part they tag, you'll be paying for a worthless piece of paper and an illegal part.
Be very, very careful. Unless Langaire actually does have PMA for each of these specific parts, the only way this can be done legally under FAA regulations is for each owner to order from a machinist individually, and each owner must provide specifications, even if the manufacturer already has them. If a manufacturer makes several sets of these and keeps them in stock in anticipation of future orders, laws are being broken unless that manufacturer has PMA for the part.
I assume the $52 "quote" addresses the nose lock pin. Have you got a quote for the tailplane lugs? You'll need one nose lock pin and two tailplane lugs per airframe at 500 hours. Also, be sure that your machinist is using lot traceable materials with the proper inspections. At $52 bucks a pop, he's probably using remainder 4130, which may not be a great idea either, and won't be legal for tagged parts.
Incidentally, I might be a little wary of a shop that is "waiting for a tool" for these parts. They are extremely simple parts and can be made by anyone with a multi-axis CNC mill or even a standard metals lathe. There is no special tooling required for either of these parts.
It is wonderful if you guys have found someone who is really willing to go to the time and expense of obtaining PMA for XL-2 parts. Just make sure the result is what you think it is, and that everything is being done in a way that satisfies regulations.
Good luck. Be careful out there.